This conversation with Slavoj Zizek was inspired by a previous interview with Michael Albert. After discussing Albert’s ideas about participatory economics, Douglas Lain mentioned that unlike Chomsky and Albert, he believed that critical theory was important to the struggle for socialism and mentioned that Slavoj Zizek’s Hegelian leftism was particularly interesting. Albert disagreed. In an effort to clear the air, Lain invited Zizek and Albert to appear on the channel and discuss the matter. Only Zizek agreed to appear on the Zero Books youtube channel.