Are we above nature? How can we combat extremism? How do extreme ideologies often become their opposite? In a lively discussion between Slavoj Žižek and Yuval Noah Harari, the two thinkers debate extremist ideology, our role in nature, the notions of good and evil, and catastrophes of the past. The conversation is moderated by Günes Taylor, and was filmed on June 2, 2022 as part of the HowTheLightGetsIn Festival.

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